tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post6479782453349516498..comments2024-03-07T20:15:45.996-08:00Comments on The Bitter Script Reader: Black Swan - Script vs. the film - Part IV: The Natalie Portman/Mila Kunis sex sceneThe Bitter Script Readerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16575166527272639709noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-39038771976589770592011-02-22T11:33:55.593-08:002011-02-22T11:33:55.593-08:00I thought that showing her mother's deliberate...I thought that showing her mother's deliberate and constant presence in her bedroom -- so to speak -- was very well done, and said quite a bit about the past, present and future of Nina's sexual and emotional development.<br /><br />It also added a weird undertone of the mother's sexuality and obsession with Nina...is Nina a doll to her, an object to be lusted after, herself in a younger, more virile form that she wished to preserve? <br /><br />It was one of the most uncomfortable scenes of the film, right up there with the feathers, face-stabbing, finger-crunching, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-31475181634803389982011-01-28T16:11:06.288-08:002011-01-28T16:11:06.288-08:00I've really enjoyed reading these posts on Swa...I've really enjoyed reading these posts on Swan. Do you think Aronofsky intends the film as camp, or some kind of sumptuous tragic melodrama?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05813694496911633174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-91622971945774943932011-01-27T14:52:13.453-08:002011-01-27T14:52:13.453-08:00David - Thanks for commenting all week, and I agre...David - Thanks for commenting all week, and I agree that the script and film are telling subtly different stories.<br /><br />Carlos - I decided against mentioning Erica because the biggest difference I noted was that the infamous "cake" scene wasn't in the draft I had. I kinda felt the script portrayed the same thing with regard to Nina not really being an independent adult, so I had the same feeling from both. I think Erica's somewhat underwritten in both versions, so there are probably multiple valid interpretations.The Bitter Script Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16575166527272639709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-85984211774917840432011-01-27T14:10:03.895-08:002011-01-27T14:10:03.895-08:00Gratuitous? No, not at all. I guess I just don'...Gratuitous? No, not at all. I guess I just don't really get bothered by that content and I say this as a guy that never even anticipated watching that specific scene.<br /><br />I feel as if a lot of the same could be said if it were Nina thinking she were watching a movie with Lilly rather than having sex with her. Obviously, I realize the message is stronger as it is on film and I'm not going to complain that I had the chance to watch it.<br /><br />Perhaps, it's going over my head, but is there a real reason for the sex scenes? I realize you didn't mention Erica in the draft vs. the film (not sure you're going to do this on Monday?). There are some minor changes there including Nina's behavior towards her. The film's version almost makes you feel as if there is a sexual conflict between the two (not saying there is, but I can understand why some have mentioned it). Whereas the script makes Erica appear less domineering and more the abused than the abuser.<br /><br />I bring that up because there is obviously an issue with Nina being an independent adult in the film version. I guess I can see the sex scenes being the leak into adulthood, but it still makes me wonder about the relationship between Nina and Erica which is equally confusing in both the script and film.Carlos Matthews Hernandezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04844149114686947104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-27812839732027229162011-01-27T13:33:36.678-08:002011-01-27T13:33:36.678-08:00Another great post.
As I mentioned in your earlie...Another great post.<br /><br />As I mentioned in your earlier post I thought at first that the masturbation scenes were gratuitous but I now think they do add to the story as they highlight Nina's sexual repression.<br /><br />As for the sex-scene, personally, I kind of thought it was overhyped -- from all the attention it was getting I was expecting Bound II. I think from the differences you've highlighted so far the script and the film are telling slightly different stories. Both are about Nina losing touch with reality but in the script it seems to be caused by Nina finding her Black Swan while in the film it comes from her struggle to play the role.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com