tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post57682975101293371..comments2024-03-07T20:15:45.996-08:00Comments on The Bitter Script Reader: X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST - Making continuity accessible to new viewers through characterThe Bitter Script Readerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16575166527272639709noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-91891791905154403102014-05-27T23:49:51.703-07:002014-05-27T23:49:51.703-07:00Thinking about Days of Future Past, Men in Black I...Thinking about Days of Future Past, Men in Black III, and a couple of Star Trek movies, I'd like to see every franchise take a turn at doing a time travel story. They all tend to be my favorites.Waves of Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17441593487387142147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-76064666290522128952014-05-27T12:15:32.807-07:002014-05-27T12:15:32.807-07:00Great points, and I was mainly talking about the w...Great points, and I was mainly talking about the writer's choices, not about the characters'. Of course Logan would stay as long as possible, but maybe the writer could have made him more important in the final act, have that "Oh god, how lucky that Logan is still here" moment. <br /><br />2. Also talking about the screenplay choice, like having an older Toad or whomever in the future, that could get killed. <br /><br />3. Yes, I see, and agree with your point.<br /><br />Those were just some things that made me feel like some stakes were missing. But I guess it's just some personal taste thing.<br /><br />And about the prison escape, I like the idea of Mystique and Magneto escaping together.Josh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/15795697055739290685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-63382399405920488732014-05-27T11:51:07.565-07:002014-05-27T11:51:07.565-07:00Yes I was curious about that too - how Magneto wou...Yes I was curious about that too - how Magneto would have escaped in the unaltered timeline. And also, at what point Charles would have stopped using heroin and embraced his power - since Logan wouldn't be there to give him that pep talk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-35520280275336501362014-05-27T10:55:02.108-07:002014-05-27T10:55:02.108-07:001. Logan has no way of knowing that Raven is compl...1. Logan has no way of knowing that Raven is completely going to stand down until that event comes to pass and she has made the opposite choice. Sure, he COULD leave after his initial contact with Charles, but he's taking a big risk that the plan derails without his help and once he leaves, history will change. I can see him not wanting to chance that he returns to the future to find things didn't work out and perhaps it won't be so easy to return a second time. (What happens if the ripple effect results in Kitty not being around in the new future.) It makes total sense to me that he'd stick around to make sure Raven is truly stopped.<br /><br />2. The trick with that is that you'd have to make it someone from the FIRST CLASS era and there are precious few of those characters still alive in the future timeframe. I don't really see them inclined to killing off Xavier, Beast, Magneto or Mystique and those really are who your choices are limited to.<br /><br />3. Since the entire mission is to keep Raven from going rogue, Charles alone won't be enough to convince her. She already split with him long ago and it's demonstrated within the film that she's unpersuaded by his platitudes. Seeing Charles AND Erik united in this would be totally unexpected and it makes sense to me that the older incarnations of those characters would believe this alliance might convince Raven of the true stakes. ("If Charles and Erik are united on this, it MUST be bad.")<br /><br />Of course, older Magneto possibly gave his past self too much credit and didn't anticipate him going off the reservation to the degree he did. I don't think this is a case of the older Magneto being sneaky and hoping his past self would take over the world. By the end of the movie, he seems genuinely regretful that he and Erik wasted all those years fighting each other.<br /><br />Sidebar - anyone else curious how Magneto got out of that prison in the original timeline? I wonder if it was in any way tied into Mystique's escape from captivity. Perhaps those events were what strengthened their bond into what we saw in the original trilogy.The Bitter Script Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16575166527272639709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-21394223396864759142014-05-27T10:24:44.287-07:002014-05-27T10:24:44.287-07:00Poor Logan. He can't remember like 20% of his ...Poor Logan. He can't remember like 20% of his life.Emily Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02163221455899041141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4706282221761427996.post-77660198492576366022014-05-27T08:18:06.842-07:002014-05-27T08:18:06.842-07:00I liked the movie, but there's a couple of thi...I liked the movie, but there's a couple of things that bothered me and didn't quite love it. <br /><br />First, once Logan convinces Xavier and send him in the path to stop Raven, isn't the future saved already? Logan didn't affect much of the story, he could have easily woken up when he saw Stryker and the future would reboot, since I doubt Xavier would be like "oh, he's back to his time, guess we don't need to stop Raven now." So for me, the ticking clock didn't quite work.<br /><br />Second, the future. Since they begin with the X-Men dying and then rebooted with time travel, they completely destroy any urgency or consequences for these events. Sure, they look cool, but you know they don't matter. On the other hand, I think that if they killed a mutant in the past, and have him disappear form the future, then they would have some real stakes. The win comes with a price.<br /><br />Third, but this isn't a big one: Magneto. Why did they need to break him free? He only screwed up the plan and made it all the more difficult for Xavier and Logan. I know why the writers needed him. But I can let that go since in my head, old Magneto wanted himself to be freed because he knew he could alter the past, with greater benefits for mutant kind. He has that kind of an ego.Josh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/15795697055739290685noreply@blogger.com